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To all Londoners - Is anyone else fed up with paying for the cr*p service Transport for London offer?

I use public transport every day and it is awful and rapidly getting worse. Trains, tubes, buses and the DLR! I can't believe we're actually going to be showing these services off in 2012! The transport system is going to collapse with all the people visiting for the Olympics. and it's too bloody expensive!! Any views? I wish the God Squad would refrain from commenting all the time just to get 2 points. And to Dublin and Glasgow, you're not hosting the Olympics in 2012, so I don't think you quite see the point. People in London are pi**ed off enough without you lot telling us how 'lucky' we are. If I could earn enough money to live in my home in Kent near my friends and family without travelling into London, believe me I would. And so would all the other people that live in Kent, Essex etc.

Public Comments

1. yes
2. I agree, so bloody expensive
3. Yeah I totally agree with you, the average tube fare here is the highest fare in Europe, it's disgusting. I live in Wimbledon and the District linein the week is terrible! As for the Olympics, Covent Garden has to shut on normal Sundays because it can't handle the crowds!! What a joke! I will beon holiday in 2012, might rent my flat out, get some money out of it after my council tax went up to pay for the games!!
4. what really gets me is the fact that every single year they go on strike to get MORE wages, not for a day or two, but for a week, 3 years ago they went strike for ten days in total, correct me if im wrong but it's called PUBLIC transport, but apparently too expensive for the public, some people like me don't get there transport to work fee's paid, and i refuse to drive in London, road rage is an old friend of mine, surely you can understand, its not rage at other drivers but at the huge amount of buses and taxi's that think they own the damn place. we have the most expensive but most unreliable service in Europe, run by greedy fat cats who get chauvered all over the damn place, it needs to stop. so do i i can feel an explosion building up inside me. lol
5. Stop complaining, I lived in London for nine years and the transport is amazing. I'm back in Dublin now and if you want to know about rubbish public transport come over here, at rush hour the DART (our equivalent of the tube) is every five to ten minutes, every 25 minutes on a Sunday and I've often waited 45 minutes for a bus and that's a regular occurrence for other people too. I have to laugh when Londoners complain about the transport. Next you'll be complaining about your almost totally free health care
6. yesterday southeastern trains failed to run before 9am due to trains sticking to the tracks, due to the cold weather, and today its even colder yet the trains ran okay. each year the price goes up for us to moan about. the service is poor, trains always packed. people take two seats and when you ask them to move they moan. its a joke really.
7. I think it's time for you to take a trip outside London. Although TfL service is pricey, you benefit from genuine 24hr bus services, a very reasonable flat bus fare with Oyster and a co-ordinated system that connects and works buses, trains and trams together. No other city in the UK can come close to that. Even here in Glasgow the dominant private bus operator offers a completely independent set of distance based tickets, day and week passes that offer no interchange with the Subway or suburban rail. A completely separate Zone Card system exists, but it's undermined by the fact that each transport operator tries to work independently so that they get exclusivity of passenger use.
8. I have travelled in, around and out of London on public transport for over 10 years and have very rarely been delayed by more than twenty minutes. Yes, it could be better but it's a lot worse in other countries. All I know is that the TfL staff work hard to keep things running and have to put up with endless moaning and abuse from passengers. When there are delays, don't forget - they just want to get home too. Moaning about it doesn't really help, does it?
9. Try living anywhere else in the UK and then count yourselves lucky, I've lived in three other cities and with the exception of one there was nowhere comparable to London. Admittedly, I have a freedom pass but even before when I used to pay for travel I still felt lucky that London had a better public transport system than any other city I've lived in.
10. london transport is AMAZING. trust me. it is so much better than any other city i have visited. Considering how many buses and tubes etc run every minute there are very few problems. in BRISTOL you pay 2.40 for a single into the city centre, about 15 minute drive. a return ticket is nearly a 5er. you can travel (on the 21 for example) from north to south london for £1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! £1 damnit. thats so good!
11. There are many problems with London's transport system, particularly the Underground, because of its age and lack of investment in new lines. However the transport system is dense and frequent, goes absolutely everywhere and there is an excellent all night bus system compared with other cities. In Paris for example most bus services close down at 7pm in the evening. One of the problems I think is that people try and travel everywhere on the over crowded Underground and tend to forget that buses are excellent for shorter journeys and that much of London is covered by the mostly excellent suburban rail system. More orbital rail or Underground lines are definitely needed however, to prevent the need to travel everywhere via central London. It is the nature of Britain that development is slow, but Crossrail is now under construction.
12. totally agree!any excuse for a strike is good cos they know we have no choice. a bit of frost/snow/sun/wind/rain blocks the whole system. what cheeses me off the most are announcements that say the "17.45 train is on time" whne it's 6 pm and we have not left yet!!!crap customer service!whenever i can i drive into london/work!!
13. If you don't like it, don't use it!
14. Well I don't have to pay any more as I'm a pensioner with a FREEDOM PASS which is worth about £4,000 a year. Travel anywhere in London, bus, tram, tube & overhead. But in answer to your question, yes, the TfL service on the Tube in particular is very bad indeed. Okay, so I'm 68 and have a lifes-worth of experience of travelling the Tube - I was born here in 1941 and have to tell you that the service today is bloody aweful - why? The reason the Tube is aweful today is because it was never designed to carry the number of people it now has to. When it was built way back from the 1890s on, it was designed for a Middle Class passenger crowd - office workers, those sort of folk. Way back in the 1950s and 1960s we had hardly any tourists here in London - now we have to deal with millions each year. Don't get me wrong, I'm not stupid, these people bring and spend a lot of money here. Good for them - keep coming etc. The other major problem with transport in London is that it's become a political football over the years. Thus, instead of spending out billions of tax money on updating and improving what is one of the wonders of the world, we get let down by such as former mayor of London Red Ken Livingstone who brought his drunken mate Keily [wassa-name] over from NYC who spend most of his time propping up the bar at City Hall and doing damn all about improving the Choob. Then we got the bursting into flames bendy bus - what a daft idea. Worse, the bleeding thing wasn't even made in YOUKAY instead we have a bunch of German buses. Don't need to remind you of what most Londoners think of that - memories of the Blitz etc. Blimey! Now we've got Boris [Tsar of Londonshire] going on about a replacement for the fab London Routemaster - well, good luck with that, hope we get it soon. It's only when you've watched this Driver's Eye View of the Choob you begin to appreciate just how slow the effin thing is. . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlKflLrxDeA&feature=related When you've whizzed around on the Paris Metro every year for a couple of decades, you'll start to appreciate what an underground railway can really be like. Ah Paris. Montmartre - ye olde red light district. Strange shops etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqiPWt__iL0 Thankfully I'm escaping to Paris for a few days in May 09 with she, who must be obyed. . .champers on the Chanselay somewhere. . .
15. Stop complaining, I went on holiday in London and the transport was amazing. I'm now back home and if you were where I am you would soon want to go back, transport wise